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but, look, he's lance armstrong. what he wanted was the cover of "newsweek." he wanted a prominent -- someone prominent in the world of sports to come to his defense because as we all saw last night, lance is a clinical, classic narcissist who really only cares about himself. so he didn't care about me. he cared about getting what he could out of me, but, you know, journalists go through this all the time, and i bought it, and i'm embarrassed. >> dave, you wrote that what he's trying to do now is the equivalent of riding a bike through the eye of a needle. well, we watched half of it. we'll see the rest of it tonight perhaps. did he succeed? >> no, he didn't succeed at all, and he didn't succeed on either front, and that's the key point here is that he had to do two different things that were very different, very divergent, and he failed at both. this is what he had to do. first, he had to show the united states anti-doping agency that he was contrite, that he was serious about taking their findings as the new law of the land. that their findings about him wer
but, look, he's lance armstrong. what he wanted was the cover of "newsweek." he wanted a prominent -- someone prominent in the world of sports to come to his defense because as we all saw last night, lance is a clinical, classic narcissist who really only cares about himself. so he didn't care about me. he cared about getting what he could out of me, but, you know, journalists go through this all the time, and i bought it, and i'm embarrassed. >> dave, you wrote that what he's...
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lance armstrong was no ordinary cheat. no, he was an international hero. a seven time-tour de france winner, the usain bolt of his sport. not to mention a public face in the fight against cancer. yet in his confessional last night with oprah, he confessed only what was obvious to anyone who wanted to see it, that he doped throughout his cycling career. but armstrong did not admit to cheating, denied he was a doping ringleader, didn't admit to bullying, and seemed emotionally incapable of sympathy for the people whose lives he ruined and money he took when they tried to do nothing more than tell the truth about what he had done. joining me is "the daily beast's" buzz bissinger and sports editor for "the nation" dave zirin. buzz, in august of 2012, just five months ago, you wrote a cover story for "newsweek" entitled "i still believe in lance armstrong," and yet last night his interview with oprah winfrey began with a series of yes and no questions. >> did you ever take banned substances to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> yes or no, was one of t
lance armstrong was no ordinary cheat. no, he was an international hero. a seven time-tour de france winner, the usain bolt of his sport. not to mention a public face in the fight against cancer. yet in his confessional last night with oprah, he confessed only what was obvious to anyone who wanted to see it, that he doped throughout his cycling career. but armstrong did not admit to cheating, denied he was a doping ringleader, didn't admit to bullying, and seemed emotionally incapable of...
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lance armstrong's cheating and deceptions had been testified to for years but lance armstrong was no ordinary cheat, no fourth outfielder looking for a little extra power or linebacker hoping for some extra muscle. no, lance armstrong was an international hero. a seven time-tour de france winner, the usain bolt of his short. not to mention a public face in the fight against cancer. yet in his confessional last night with oprah, he confessed only what was obvious to anyone who wanted to see it, that he doped throughout his cycling career. but armstrong did not admit to cheating, denied he was a doping ringleader, didn't admitting to bullying and seemed emotionally incapable of sympathy for the people whose lives he ruined and money he took when they tried to do nothing more than tell the truth about what he had done. joining me the daily beast's buzz bissinger and sports editor for the nation dave xi ren. bus, in august of 2012, just five months ago, you wrote a cover story for "newsweek" entitled "i still believe in lance armstrong" and yet last night his interview with oprah winfrey
lance armstrong's cheating and deceptions had been testified to for years but lance armstrong was no ordinary cheat, no fourth outfielder looking for a little extra power or linebacker hoping for some extra muscle. no, lance armstrong was an international hero. a seven time-tour de france winner, the usain bolt of his short. not to mention a public face in the fight against cancer. yet in his confessional last night with oprah, he confessed only what was obvious to anyone who wanted to see it,...
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but, look, he's lance armstrong. what he wanted was the cover of "newsweek." he wanted a prominent -- someone prominent in the world of sports to come to his defense because as we all saw last night, lance is a clinical, classic narcissist who really only cares about himself. so he didn't care about me. he cared about getting what he could out of me, but, you know, journalists go through this all the time, and i bought it, and i'm embarrassed. >> dave, you wrote that what he's trying to do now is the equivalent of riding a bike through the eye of a needle. well, we watched half of it. we'll see the rest of it tonight perhaps. did he succeed? >> no, he didn't succeed at all, and he didn't succeed on either front, and that's the key point here is that he had to do two different things that were very different, very divergent, and he failed at both. this is what he had to do. first, he had to show the united states anti-doping agency that he was contrite, that he was serious about taking their findings as the new law of the land. that their findings about him wer
but, look, he's lance armstrong. what he wanted was the cover of "newsweek." he wanted a prominent -- someone prominent in the world of sports to come to his defense because as we all saw last night, lance is a clinical, classic narcissist who really only cares about himself. so he didn't care about me. he cared about getting what he could out of me, but, you know, journalists go through this all the time, and i bought it, and i'm embarrassed. >> dave, you wrote that what he's...
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lance armstrong is a partial owner here. i was talking to the general manager of the store, and he said they know the circle of support for lance armstrong has shrunk considerably, but there's still a great number of people who support him. he told me an anecdote of a woman who bought a bike here and after the report had come out, returned the bike and said i refuse to give that guy lance armstrong any money. but despite all of that, there is still support and he still supports the friend he's known since they were teenagers. have you told him maybe you lost faith in him? >> no. there's still a lot there. there's still a lot of things that he's done and accomplished outside of the seven tours of france. everything right now is focused on that. when you take him the person and look at all the things that he's done, people's inspired, people's helped with cancer, there's a much bigger story. and i think that part of the story will start to come around. a lot of people are sort of abandoning him really quickly and i think that
lance armstrong is a partial owner here. i was talking to the general manager of the store, and he said they know the circle of support for lance armstrong has shrunk considerably, but there's still a great number of people who support him. he told me an anecdote of a woman who bought a bike here and after the report had come out, returned the bike and said i refuse to give that guy lance armstrong any money. but despite all of that, there is still support and he still supports the friend he's...
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lance armstrong comes clean. after more than a decade of denialses lies and cheating, seven-time tour de france winner, olympic bronze medalist and cancer survivor lance armstrong told oprah winfrey the truth. >> did you ever take banned substances to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> yes or no. was one of those banned substances epo? >> yes. >> did you ever blood dope or use blood transfusions to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> did you ever use any other banned substances like testosterone, cortisone or human growth hormone? >> yes. >> yes or no, in all seven of your tour de france victories, did you ever take banned substances or blood dope? >> yes. >> in your opinion, was it humanly possible to win the tour de france without doping? seven times in a row. >> not in my opinion. >> for months, even longer, armstrong has been feeling the effects of the latest and biggest u.s. anti-doping investigation. this one found him guilty of using illicit drugs throughout his cycling career. now his t
lance armstrong comes clean. after more than a decade of denialses lies and cheating, seven-time tour de france winner, olympic bronze medalist and cancer survivor lance armstrong told oprah winfrey the truth. >> did you ever take banned substances to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> yes or no. was one of those banned substances epo? >> yes. >> did you ever blood dope or use blood transfusions to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >>...
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he was an incredible competitor after lance armstrong and lance armstrong, as betty said, went after greg lemond. do you think lance armstrong gets it, bill? >> i think he gets that he should get it, and i think what we're seeing here is he's really struggling with it. what's interesting to me is there's sort of parallel views of this going on. there's a lot of people who are skeptical, but i was reading all the reactions today from jonathan and tyler hamilton and frankie. they have all acknowledged how hard it is just to do what he's done, and frankie in a report today was saying until you sit down and start talking to usada, you don't know how hard that is. the people who are there and made the mistakes he did in a smaller way, they seem to have more empathy for him than everyone else. interesting. >> oprah asked about paying off allegations that he attempted to pay off usada or somebody in his world attempted to pay off usada. let's listen to what he said. >> last wednesday night travis tygart ceo of usada told 60 minutes sports that someone on your team offered a donation that us
he was an incredible competitor after lance armstrong and lance armstrong, as betty said, went after greg lemond. do you think lance armstrong gets it, bill? >> i think he gets that he should get it, and i think what we're seeing here is he's really struggling with it. what's interesting to me is there's sort of parallel views of this going on. there's a lot of people who are skeptical, but i was reading all the reactions today from jonathan and tyler hamilton and frankie. they have all...
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lance armstrong, a full confession. i'll talk to somebody who has been through the mincer as someone exposed as a cheat. we'll listen to his take on lance armstrong and his comeback in political life. ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. is a fantastic experience. 30 shrimp for $11.99. i can't imagine anything better. you're getting a ton of shrimp, and it tastes really good! [ male announcer ] hurry in to red lobster's 30 shrimp for just $11.99! choose any two of five savory shrimp selections, like mango jalapeÑo shrimp and parmesan crunch shrimp. two delicious shrimp selections on one plate! all with salad and unlimited cheddar bay biscuits. 30 shrimp, just $11.99 for a limited time. wow, that's a lot of shrimp. i'm ryon stewart, i'm the ultimate shrimp lover, and i sea food differently. [ construction sounds ] ♪ [ watch ticking ] [ engine re
lance armstrong, a full confession. i'll talk to somebody who has been through the mincer as someone exposed as a cheat. we'll listen to his take on lance armstrong and his comeback in political life. ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. is a fantastic experience. 30 shrimp for $11.99. i can't imagine anything better....
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lance armstrong was doping. of course he was. you can best cancer and you can win the tour de france but you can't beat the tour de france 7 times and beat cancer or vice versa meaning you have won the tour de france and lost seven testicles. it's obvious in hindsight. it's like the tooth fairy. of course, a winged fairy spends her life collecting baby teeth yet somehow has money in her pocket to give out. defies credibility. any idiot with half a brain should have been able to see armstrong of lying. they've been testing me like crazy. they've been following you. don't the results speak for themselves at a certain point? >> jon: hello! hello. [ laughter ] nailed it again. [ laughter ] [cheers and applause] you know what? for as good as interviewing as i am, i would not be surprised if armstrong was also banging david patreaus. [ laughter ] looking at how the two of us have aged since that interview, i need to start doping. [ laughter ] so armstrong admits doping. it's a long road back to redemption. how can he find himself back
lance armstrong was doping. of course he was. you can best cancer and you can win the tour de france but you can't beat the tour de france 7 times and beat cancer or vice versa meaning you have won the tour de france and lost seven testicles. it's obvious in hindsight. it's like the tooth fairy. of course, a winged fairy spends her life collecting baby teeth yet somehow has money in her pocket to give out. defies credibility. any idiot with half a brain should have been able to see armstrong of...
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who exactly is lance armstrong? >> you and i both know that fame just magnifies whoever you really are. so if you're a jerk you're a bigger jerk. if you're a humanitarian, you're a bigger humanitarian. >> um, i would say i was both, and we saw both. now we're seeing certainly more of the jerk part. >> cenk: jerk might not be the proper lexicon for this occasion. i think there is more of that jerk part still to come. save ziron this man has been our go-to man on everything lance armstrongen. thanks so much. >> great to be here. >> great to have you. >> john: what was your over all reaction. >> i thought it made the titanic look like a smooth viage by comparison. lance armstrong he hit iceberg oprah and it was all down hill from there. lance armstrong had two main tasks he had to get done in this interview, and he failed spectacularly at both of them. one, he had to chose the anti-doping agency that he was willing to play ball. he had to be willing to say your findings were correct and i throw myself on the court. the
who exactly is lance armstrong? >> you and i both know that fame just magnifies whoever you really are. so if you're a jerk you're a bigger jerk. if you're a humanitarian, you're a bigger humanitarian. >> um, i would say i was both, and we saw both. now we're seeing certainly more of the jerk part. >> cenk: jerk might not be the proper lexicon for this occasion. i think there is more of that jerk part still to come. save ziron this man has been our go-to man on everything...
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man for lance armstrong. to get epo for the tour de france, we came up with a plan. and the plan had moto man involved where he would follow the race, always stayed within probably a half hour drive of our motorcycle drive from our hotel. he basically had the container filled with epo. and he would basically just wait for a phone call on a secret phone. when he had to do a delivery, he would do a delivery. >> armstrong coming up now. can he get off to a great start in the tour de france? he is aiming at 8:09. 8:02.51. lance armstrong with that performance -- >> this is where the legend began. on the very first day of his comeback tour de france, lance armstrong won the prologue. >> lance armstrong has delivered a great blow -- >> three weeks later, less than three years after being diagnosed with cancer, he won his first tour de france. it would be the first of seven. armstrong was now a legend in his sport, a sport tainted at the highest level. >>> next, doctors, coaches and cover-up. >>> lance armstrong was
man for lance armstrong. to get epo for the tour de france, we came up with a plan. and the plan had moto man involved where he would follow the race, always stayed within probably a half hour drive of our motorcycle drive from our hotel. he basically had the container filled with epo. and he would basically just wait for a phone call on a secret phone. when he had to do a delivery, he would do a delivery. >> armstrong coming up now. can he get off to a great start in the tour de france?...
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get on national headline programs, it doesn't, it did with lance armstrong and after lance armstrong it didn't and it is again because lance armstrong is in the news again. it is a massive story and i think his story had as many sort of components to it of what people look to sports for as any story that has ever been told in sports. >> rose: daniel. >> it is a greek myth, we have seen his rise and now we are compelled by his fall because it is driven by the same quality, that willingness to do anything to win in cycling that took him to some dark places and seeing exactly as we wrote in our book the secret race we are seeing exactly what that place looked like and what it is made of and the decisions he made,. >> rose: the answer to the question, why would he dope in the first place is simply the competition and the need to win? >> it has to do with the way he is built, this is what makes lance, lance he so easy the word in a very binary way, he looks out at a landscape if something will help him and if it won't, he won't do it, so that same strategy, that same mindset which made hi
get on national headline programs, it doesn't, it did with lance armstrong and after lance armstrong it didn't and it is again because lance armstrong is in the news again. it is a massive story and i think his story had as many sort of components to it of what people look to sports for as any story that has ever been told in sports. >> rose: daniel. >> it is a greek myth, we have seen his rise and now we are compelled by his fall because it is driven by the same quality, that...
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lance armstrong's riveting but incomplete confession. incomplete and many say other things as well, some say calculating, cocky, and cruel. whatever you call it, his effort continues as oprah winfrey runs the second installment of hir interview with the disgraced tour de france winner. after the interview, we'll have another edition of "360." this portion expected to deal with his betrayal of live strong. some people are less than happy with his confession so far. people he targeted for telling the truth when he was still lying. >> this is a guy who used to be my friend who decimated me. he could have come clean. he owed it to me. he oweds it to the sport that he destroyed. >> her husband used to ride with lance armstrong. she's going to join us later tonight, and again, will be reacting instantly to what she hears from armstrong. last night, she said armstrong dropped the ball, that he owed to her and her husband frankie to come clean. when he was lying, they were telling the truth, and he tried to destroy them, what she rea reacted so
lance armstrong's riveting but incomplete confession. incomplete and many say other things as well, some say calculating, cocky, and cruel. whatever you call it, his effort continues as oprah winfrey runs the second installment of hir interview with the disgraced tour de france winner. after the interview, we'll have another edition of "360." this portion expected to deal with his betrayal of live strong. some people are less than happy with his confession so far. people he targeted...
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from how we look at lance armstrong. yes, the victories were gained in a totally wrong, immoral way and he is bearing the consequences of that now, but it doesn't change the fact that millions of people's lives were changed for the better because of him. i don't think that we should totally forget that. >> he also ruined a lot of people's lives. >> and his reputation. >> i don't care about his reputation. he's ruined people's lives -- >> you don't care about -- >> -- by throwing them under the bus. >> you don't care about it but i think in terms of we're talking about what's fair and what the proper shakeout of all this should be, it's certainly worth noting whether you care about it or not that his life and his reputation will be shattered. >> deservedly. >> deservedly but will be. >> and for young people who are looking at this, you know, they're not looking at doping and using performance enhancing drugs and saying this worked out really great for him. >> i don't know about that. i don't know. i don't know how many pe
from how we look at lance armstrong. yes, the victories were gained in a totally wrong, immoral way and he is bearing the consequences of that now, but it doesn't change the fact that millions of people's lives were changed for the better because of him. i don't think that we should totally forget that. >> he also ruined a lot of people's lives. >> and his reputation. >> i don't care about his reputation. he's ruined people's lives -- >> you don't care about -- >>...
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. >>> we begin with breaking news on lance armstrong. after years of lying about using performance-enhancing drugs, after suing some, threatening others and ruining the careers of many who tried to expose his lies, the dethroned seven-time tour de france winner has changed his tune. in a big way. he now calls his whole experience, and these are his own words, quote, one big lie. and says all the blame lies with him. he spoke, obviously, with oprah winfrey, taped a 2 1/2-hour interview which began airing tonight on her network own. the encounter began with oprah asking him a rapid fire series of o of questions. with each answer the stakes got higher, the tension rose. take a look. >> did you ever take banned substances to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> yes or no, was one of those banned substances epo? >> yes. >> did you ever blood dope or use blood transfusions to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> did you ever use any other banned substances like testosterone, cortisone or human growth hormone? >> yes. >> yes or
. >>> we begin with breaking news on lance armstrong. after years of lying about using performance-enhancing drugs, after suing some, threatening others and ruining the careers of many who tried to expose his lies, the dethroned seven-time tour de france winner has changed his tune. in a big way. he now calls his whole experience, and these are his own words, quote, one big lie. and says all the blame lies with him. he spoke, obviously, with oprah winfrey, taped a 2 1/2-hour interview...
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you will hear more of lance armstrong's jaw-dropping interview. first i want to go right to the heart of where it all happened, at least where it started, austin, texas, lance armstrong's hometown, home base. cnn's george howell is there. george, you know, this is not just a story where people across america are in disbelief are, you know, are outraged, are still angry, are considering forgiving him. this must be hell in his hometown. >> reporter: you know, ashleigh, the question here, was it believable, you know, he said all of the right words, but is he truly, sincerely apologetic, you know, for what he did here? and when you talk to people, some ask, you know, does it really make a difference, and some say they are disappointed. there are cyclists who are livid, ashleigh, about what they heard the other night. but i spoke with one person, michael hall, he writes for "texas monthly" he rode with lance and he knows him well enough, and he said when you listen to what lance armstrong had to say, you do have to question whether he really meant it,
you will hear more of lance armstrong's jaw-dropping interview. first i want to go right to the heart of where it all happened, at least where it started, austin, texas, lance armstrong's hometown, home base. cnn's george howell is there. george, you know, this is not just a story where people across america are in disbelief are, you know, are outraged, are still angry, are considering forgiving him. this must be hell in his hometown. >> reporter: you know, ashleigh, the question here,...
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it's not that -- this wasn't some benefit for lance armstrong. when investigations are dropped without charges, they're just dropped without charges. they don't explain why. i can't tell you why it was done, but the fact that there was no public explanation isn't sinister or suspicious. >> do you think he was -- he wasn't -- he was refusing to answer that question for legal reasons? >> perhaps. but he did answer a lot of questions that were legally very incriminating to him. the fact that he admitted all this doping for all seven tour de france titles, that certainly is very damaging to him. legally. so why he might have drawn a distinction to that conversation versus others, i can't really answer because he did put himself in legal jeopardy several times. >> betsy, why do you think -- >> why do i think he -- >> why do you think he wouldn't answer that question? >> i don't know. i don't know. because the hospital room is where it all started. it's where it all started. and so him not answering that question is going to infuriate people who know t
it's not that -- this wasn't some benefit for lance armstrong. when investigations are dropped without charges, they're just dropped without charges. they don't explain why. i can't tell you why it was done, but the fact that there was no public explanation isn't sinister or suspicious. >> do you think he was -- he wasn't -- he was refusing to answer that question for legal reasons? >> perhaps. but he did answer a lot of questions that were legally very incriminating to him. the...
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. >>> still to come, lance armstrong's apology tour in full swing. what he told oprah and what it means for his fortune and future officeyour business needs...k... at prices that keep you...out of the red. this week get a bonus $15 itunes gift card with any qualifying $75 ink purchase. find thousands of big deals now... at officemax. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? >>> for more than a decade lance armstrong denied his use of performance-enhancing drugs. he lied to our faces. >> the questions and suspicion continued. >> i've said it for seven years, i've said it longer than seven years. i've never doped. >> i can't be any clea
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armstrong. >> lance armstrong just confirmed his tour de france win. >> reporter: the icon who transcended sport, hung around with movie stars and world leaders, the one who told the world year after year that he was clean and anyone who said otherwise was just out to get him. >> i have never doped. i've never taken performance-enhancing drugs. my best defense is i've never tested positive. >> reporter: he didn't just lie to reporters, fans, sponsors, and even cancer survivors, he lied under oath, too. >> how many times do i have to say it? >> i just want to make sure your testimony is clear. >> if it can't be any clearer that i've never taken drugs. >> reporter: along way, armstrong's great lie left a trail of human collateral damage. people who went from friend to enemy the minute they threatened to expose him. >> it's a long time coming. i think it's steph. >> reporter: frankie andreu was his best friend and teammate until he and his wife testified they heard him admit he took drugs. armstrong went on the attack, accusing frankie and betsy of lying. >> she said in her deposition she hat
armstrong. >> lance armstrong just confirmed his tour de france win. >> reporter: the icon who transcended sport, hung around with movie stars and world leaders, the one who told the world year after year that he was clean and anyone who said otherwise was just out to get him. >> i have never doped. i've never taken performance-enhancing drugs. my best defense is i've never tested positive. >> reporter: he didn't just lie to reporters, fans, sponsors, and even cancer...
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armstrong took drugs is lance armstrong. is this news to anybody in the first place? so he came out. we all sort of new in our heads this guy was doing it. >> true except he lied to everyone for years. in my opinion you lie to me, you are out. then i do the thing the cat did and you have to go away. i'm telling you. all right, rusty, you made a great point. you brought some common sense to the table, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> and even if everyone is doping, doesn't mean you should do it too. that's right. remember the old adage, if somebody else jumps off a bridge you don't do. it right? are we the only sane ones here? >> we are the only sane ones here. it is very clear to me. >> i want to take issue with that analogy. if everyone is jumping off a bridge into a pool of money maybe you jump. >> i knew your active imagination would come in here and ruin the entire segment. you know what we are talking about. >> there is a lack of not only morality going on in our country, but there is a lack of manhood, standing up for
armstrong took drugs is lance armstrong. is this news to anybody in the first place? so he came out. we all sort of new in our heads this guy was doing it. >> true except he lied to everyone for years. in my opinion you lie to me, you are out. then i do the thing the cat did and you have to go away. i'm telling you. all right, rusty, you made a great point. you brought some common sense to the table, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> and even if everyone is doping, doesn't mean...